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		By: Kazim Kemal-ur-Rahim		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventuresofthemonad.com/7-secondary-tertiary-quaternary-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-252&quot;&gt;Lyn&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lyn

Sorry for the late reply. I do not get notifications that a message has been posted. Not quite sure how to rectify that. You ask a very perceptive question. The answer to the first question is &quot;yes&quot;, your monad is just one monad out of that innumerably large number of monads. So what is going on here? The vast majority of monads on the Universe are primary atoms. They fill all the intergalactic space and make up all the substrate of the galactic space as well. As we know, or perhaps we don&#039;t, the only selves capable of dealing with the phenomenal energy that the primary atoms displays are the guys at the top of the tree. We are talking about those monads that don&#039;t even get involved with galaxies. These are the really big beasts of the Universe. It is they that work on the primary atoms, slowly waking them up. This is the work of the 3rd Logos, otherwise known as Brahma. At the same time, these primary monads get entangled in all the planes of matter and all the atomic structures found there in. What is happening here is that the controlling consciousness of that particular cluster, be it atomic or molecular, as in the case of the Cosmic Physical plane, has an activated consciousness. So even if it is a secondary atom, if it is the centre of the cluster of primary atoms, its consciousness is affecting the primary monads.

So now we get to the quaternary monad located on the 43 plane. This can be a mineral, plant, animal or human monad, not to mention a 5th or 6th self. They are all sitting in a cluster of these other monads. On this plane, they must be primary monads, but within the solar system, they are also tertiary atoms, as your permanent atoms and permanent molecules are made of this 3rd order monad. But back to Plane-43, once you have dissolved your whole triadic structure and you are ready to go cosmic, you actually keep this 43-atom with you, in a chain, all the way back to Plane-1. It is a history of your entire journey through the Universe. Imagine how many terabytes of information are contained there in. You are increasing in consciousness as you ascend from plane to plane and these monads are getting higher and higher voltages coursing through them. It takes a long time for you to ascend back to Plane-1 and it takes a long time for the to wake up. Win-win situation.

Now here is something else to consider. We may think of a chain of atomic structures that represent our ascent through the higher planes of matter, as a string of pearls on a necklace, but in fact it is better to think of a Russian doll scenario. Sitting right at the centre of this collection of onion rings is your monad.

I hope that brings some clarity to your question. If not, please feel free to to send me another message and I may just pick it up quicker next time.

Thank you

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventuresofthemonad.com/7-secondary-tertiary-quaternary-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-252">Lyn</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lyn</p>
<p>Sorry for the late reply. I do not get notifications that a message has been posted. Not quite sure how to rectify that. You ask a very perceptive question. The answer to the first question is &#8220;yes&#8221;, your monad is just one monad out of that innumerably large number of monads. So what is going on here? The vast majority of monads on the Universe are primary atoms. They fill all the intergalactic space and make up all the substrate of the galactic space as well. As we know, or perhaps we don&#8217;t, the only selves capable of dealing with the phenomenal energy that the primary atoms displays are the guys at the top of the tree. We are talking about those monads that don&#8217;t even get involved with galaxies. These are the really big beasts of the Universe. It is they that work on the primary atoms, slowly waking them up. This is the work of the 3rd Logos, otherwise known as Brahma. At the same time, these primary monads get entangled in all the planes of matter and all the atomic structures found there in. What is happening here is that the controlling consciousness of that particular cluster, be it atomic or molecular, as in the case of the Cosmic Physical plane, has an activated consciousness. So even if it is a secondary atom, if it is the centre of the cluster of primary atoms, its consciousness is affecting the primary monads.</p>
<p>So now we get to the quaternary monad located on the 43 plane. This can be a mineral, plant, animal or human monad, not to mention a 5th or 6th self. They are all sitting in a cluster of these other monads. On this plane, they must be primary monads, but within the solar system, they are also tertiary atoms, as your permanent atoms and permanent molecules are made of this 3rd order monad. But back to Plane-43, once you have dissolved your whole triadic structure and you are ready to go cosmic, you actually keep this 43-atom with you, in a chain, all the way back to Plane-1. It is a history of your entire journey through the Universe. Imagine how many terabytes of information are contained there in. You are increasing in consciousness as you ascend from plane to plane and these monads are getting higher and higher voltages coursing through them. It takes a long time for you to ascend back to Plane-1 and it takes a long time for the to wake up. Win-win situation.</p>
<p>Now here is something else to consider. We may think of a chain of atomic structures that represent our ascent through the higher planes of matter, as a string of pearls on a necklace, but in fact it is better to think of a Russian doll scenario. Sitting right at the centre of this collection of onion rings is your monad.</p>
<p>I hope that brings some clarity to your question. If not, please feel free to to send me another message and I may just pick it up quicker next time.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>K</p>
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		By: Lyn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2022 08:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Kazim,

Brilliant presentations - thanks! 

It is a bit unclear when you talk about the monad starting out as a 1-atom of primary matter (and ultimately fully evolved quaternary matter) and the solar/quaternary &quot;monad&quot; beginning it&#039;s pilgrimage as a 43-atom.  If my math is correct, a 43-atom will contain 49^42 1-atoms which is 9.7 followed by 69 zeros.  Are you/Laurency suggesting that our true self is just one out of those other unimaginably large number of 1-atoms constituting the &quot;monad&quot; in the solar planes?  If so, what is the status of those other 1-atoms constituting the 43-atoms?  How can the &quot;monad&quot; eventually ascend to the 1st plane without losing all its companion 1-atoms along the way?

Thanks,

Lyn]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Kazim,</p>
<p>Brilliant presentations &#8211; thanks! </p>
<p>It is a bit unclear when you talk about the monad starting out as a 1-atom of primary matter (and ultimately fully evolved quaternary matter) and the solar/quaternary &#8220;monad&#8221; beginning it&#8217;s pilgrimage as a 43-atom.  If my math is correct, a 43-atom will contain 49^42 1-atoms which is 9.7 followed by 69 zeros.  Are you/Laurency suggesting that our true self is just one out of those other unimaginably large number of 1-atoms constituting the &#8220;monad&#8221; in the solar planes?  If so, what is the status of those other 1-atoms constituting the 43-atoms?  How can the &#8220;monad&#8221; eventually ascend to the 1st plane without losing all its companion 1-atoms along the way?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Lyn</p>
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		By: Kazim Kemal-ur-Rahim		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventuresofthemonad.com/7-secondary-tertiary-quaternary-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-194&quot;&gt;Alexey&lt;/a&gt;.

You make a good point here Alexey

I have not been very clear. The involution of secondary matter ends at Plane-48. It then somehow gets converted into tertiary matter on Plane-49. This is all still under the remit of the 2nd Outpouring. This tertiary matter is what makes up our physical bodies. It then evolves into the higher planes, acting as the matter that makes up our envelopes and also the atomic structure of the permanent atoms 48 &amp; 49, as well as the permanent molecule 47. All envelopes in the Cosmic Physical Kingdom are made from tertiary matter. When you go into the next kingdom, envelopes there are made from primary matter alone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventuresofthemonad.com/7-secondary-tertiary-quaternary-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-194">Alexey</a>.</p>
<p>You make a good point here Alexey</p>
<p>I have not been very clear. The involution of secondary matter ends at Plane-48. It then somehow gets converted into tertiary matter on Plane-49. This is all still under the remit of the 2nd Outpouring. This tertiary matter is what makes up our physical bodies. It then evolves into the higher planes, acting as the matter that makes up our envelopes and also the atomic structure of the permanent atoms 48 &#038; 49, as well as the permanent molecule 47. All envelopes in the Cosmic Physical Kingdom are made from tertiary matter. When you go into the next kingdom, envelopes there are made from primary matter alone.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2022 08:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Kazim!

There is one thing that is not clear here for me. That is the moment of transfer Tertiary Matter to Quaternary Matter on plane-43 after 3rd outpouring.
 
You write “Secondary matter then evolves further into Tertiary Matter and begins to evolve back towards Plane-43. Tertiary Matter then moves back through Planes-43 to Plane-49. It is not involving anymore, it is just moving from plane to plane. Here it is incorporated into the structure of the triad chain.”. Then below you write: “Tertiary matter is also considered evolutionary. It has also descended to the 49th plane. It will evolve back into higher planes to be incorporated into subtler bodies. When it returns to the 43rd plane, it receives the 3rd outpouring and continues its evolution as quaternary matter.” 

It turns out that the Tertiary matter, having reached plan 43, first moves back again to plan 49 to participate in the creation of triad chain, and only then receives the 3rd outpouring and becomes Quaternary matter?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Kazim!</p>
<p>There is one thing that is not clear here for me. That is the moment of transfer Tertiary Matter to Quaternary Matter on plane-43 after 3rd outpouring.</p>
<p>You write “Secondary matter then evolves further into Tertiary Matter and begins to evolve back towards Plane-43. Tertiary Matter then moves back through Planes-43 to Plane-49. It is not involving anymore, it is just moving from plane to plane. Here it is incorporated into the structure of the triad chain.”. Then below you write: “Tertiary matter is also considered evolutionary. It has also descended to the 49th plane. It will evolve back into higher planes to be incorporated into subtler bodies. When it returns to the 43rd plane, it receives the 3rd outpouring and continues its evolution as quaternary matter.” </p>
<p>It turns out that the Tertiary matter, having reached plan 43, first moves back again to plan 49 to participate in the creation of triad chain, and only then receives the 3rd outpouring and becomes Quaternary matter?</p>
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