You ask the question, where we once monads? We can only be monads, as there are only monads. The only difference between monads is it state of consciousness and what path of evolution it is on. The devas are on one, we are on another. The monads that make up our envelopes of incarnation are monads vibrating at the level of tertiary atoms and molecules. The matter that inhabits our subtle bodies is composed of secondary matter, otherwise known as Elementals. They are surrounded by an envelope made of tertiary mater. The devas that run our bodies are vibrating at the quaternary level, just like us.

The concept of a spiritual being is a confusing one. What makes something spiritual? There is such a thing as a Spirit Triad and we as humans are nowhere near functioning on it. So if that is not what spirit means, what else can it be? Every monad has three aspects, matter, motion and consciousness. Place spirit where you like in this trinity but remember this trinity is common to all monads and therefore every speck of dust in this entire universe.

So if i have understood you correctly, both we as spiritual beings and devas are monads. Monads deal with matter and we as the triad spirit, matter consciousness deal with thinking. Monads then run all the organs of our body?? Were we once monads and have evolved to where we are now??

I agree with you Roberto, clearly, you can not go so far backwards as to end up in the Animal Kingdom. However, clearly human monads can become very bestial. Laurency mentions that a monad can choose to deliberately sever itself from its causal body. This it does when it reaches the highest stage of mental development but choose to follow the left-hand path. This is a catastrophic decision, which eventually leads to a monad dropping down to the mineral kingdom at the end of the globe, as there is nowhere for it to sleep in the pralaya.

Very good point Roberto,

I would also like to add a few points to expend on what Bladon said. If the causal body is just a repository for memory until you take full control of it, how can its consciousness rise and fall? You may have no increase in consciousness as the result of a failed incarnation, but how do you actually remove consciousness from such a body?

The second point is how can the lower causal body contaminate the higher one? Casual molecules only know the truth. So no falsehoods can exist at the causal level. If the persona has acquired a stack of bad traits and habits from an incarnation, they will remain in the permanent emotional atom or mental molecule. These kinds of experiences are stored in lower vibration matter.

Now to get back to the Bladon model. You could postulate that the causal molecules that were resonating in the lower causal body had somehow lowered in their vibrational capacity. This would mean they would return to the greater casual body with less capacity than which they arrived in the incarnation. In this case, the total mass of the greater causal body on reunification would be less than when it started the incarnation. In such a scenario limiting the exposure of the total causal matter to the results of a bad incarnation would then make good sense.

Everything is a monad Colin. This includes Primary Matter, Secondary Matter, Tertiary Matter and Quaternary Matter. Everything from a rock upwards is Quaternary Matter. The three lower grades of matter are also monadic. What differs with them is their consciousness. Primary matter is potentially conscious. Secondary Matter is passively conscious and Tertiary Matter has limited memory but no will as yet. Will begins to develop when the monad receives the 3rd Out Pouring from the 1st Logos.

Hi Colin, firstly I wish to say that 99% of what we do in an incarnation is repetition. Repulsive monads like us learn very slowly. Your guardian angel, because it operates in 6 dimensions, is able to see past, present and future in the present. I explain this concept in presentation 16. So it gathers together that bundle of causal matter that allows you to fulfil your objectives for that particular incarnation. We still have the ability to cock things up. Even our guardian angels can not completely predict our capacity to stuff things up!

There is another issue of energy. The full causal body has a lot more energy than just 5% of it. As a monad nears enlightenment, it also strengthens it envelopes of incarnation, so that it is able to handle the voltages that will circulate through these bodies when it is carrying a full load.

The last issue is one of capacity. The monad is consciousness where you are right now. It does not have the capacity to operate with the knowledge of all its incarnations right back to when it was a rock!